Algemene Genealogie van Luc Boumans en Lesley-Ann Hendriks-Lydiate
man‎John Lydiate‏‎
Geboren ‎4 feb 1864 Runcorn, Cheshire, England, Great Britain Parrs Square.1).
Geboorteaangifte ‎22 feb 1864 1).
Overleden ‎14 apr 1944 Manchester, Lancaster, England, Great Britain‎, leeftijd 80 jaar, doodsoorzaak: Myocardial Degereration, Senility. 2).
Overlijdensaangifte ‎17 apr 1944 2).
Beroepen: Waterman (‎van 1889),
Dock Labourer (‎van 1901),
Flatman, Boatman (‎van 1911),
Waterman on Coast (‎van 1920),
Farm Labourer (‎tot 1944)

Achternaam: Lydiate
Deze interessante en bijzondere achternaam is van Angelsaksische oorsprong. Het is een plaatsbeschrijvende naam van een woning bij een draaihek, in het bijzonder een draaihek dat gebruikt werd in een afrastering tussen een omgeploegd stuk land en een weide. De naam van dit draaihek komt van het Oud-Engelse, vroeg 7e eeuwse woord ‘hlid-geat’. De naam Lydiate kan ook afgeleid zijn van een van de vele plaatsnaamvarianten die naar zo een draaihek genoemd zijn. Deze plaatsnamen zijn: Lidgate in Suffolk, Lidgate in Yorkshire, en Derbyshire, Lidgett in de buurt van Edwinstome in Nottinghamshire, Lugat in de heerlijkheid Stow in Midlothian en Lydiate in Lancashire (15 km van Liverpool). Aangezien veel nazaten van de familie Lydaite uit Lancashire afkomstig zijn ligt het voor de hand dat de familie naar deze plaats vernoemd is.
Topografische achternamen zijn al heel vroeg ontstaan, omdat zowel natuurlijke als door de mens gemaakte voorwerpen in het landschap gemakkelijk te herkennen en te onthouden namen opleveren in de kleine Middeleeuwse gemeenschappen. Deze plaatsbeschrijvende namen werden meestal gebruikt voor mensen die van hun oorspronkelijke plaats van geboorte naar een andere plek verhuisd waren. Vroege voorbeelden van deze naam zijn: Philip atte Ludgate (Yorkshire, 1274), Richard de la Lydeyate (Staffordshire, 1280) en John atta Lygate (Sussex, 1332). In het huidige gebruik van de achternaam bestaan een aantal spellingsvarianten die gaan van: Lidgate, Liddiatt, Lidgett, Lyddiatt en Lydiate, tot Ligatt, Liggatt en Liggett. Op 3 februari 1697 trouwdeElizabeth Ligget en Jonathan Bushell in de St. James kerk op de Duke Place in Londen. De vroegst opgetekende spelling van de familienaam lijkt die van Ralph de Lidgate te zijn, welke gedateerd is op 1230 in de ‘Pipe Rolls of Sussex’ (perkamentrollen), tijdens het bewind van Koning Henry III, ook bekend als ‘De Fransman’(1216 – 1272). Het gebruik van achternamen werd noodzakelijk toen de overheid persoonlijke belastingen ging invoeren. In Engeland staat dit bekend als Poll Tax (inkomstenbelasting). Gedurende de eeuwen hebben achternamen zich verder ‘ontwikkeld’ wat tot soms opvallende varianten van de oorspronkelijke schrijfwijze heeft geleid.
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Surname: Lydiate
This interesting and attractive surname is of Anglo-Saxon origin, and is either a topographical name from residence by a swing-gate, specifically one in a fence between ploughed land and meadow, deriving from the Olde English pre 7th Century "hlid-geat", swing-gate, or a locational name from any of the various places named with this word. These places include: Lidgate in Suffolk; Lidgate in Yorkshire and Derbyshire; Lidgett near Edwinstowe, Nottinghamshire, Lugat in the lordship of Stow, Midlothian and Lydiate in Lancashire (15 km from Liverpool). As many of the descendants of the Lydaite family come from Lancashire, it is obvious that the family is named after this place.. Topographical surnames were among the earliest created, sinceboth natural and man-made features in the landscape provided easily recognizable distinguishing names in the small communities of the Middle Ages, and locational names were originally given as a means of identification to those who left their birthplace to settle elsewhere. Early examples of the surname include: Philip atte Lidgate (Yorkshire, 1274); Richard de la Lydeyate (Staffordshire, 1280), and John atte Lygate (Sussex, 1332). In the modern idiom the surname has a number of variant spellings, ranging from Lidgate, Liddiatt, Lidgett, Lyddiatt, and Lydiate to Liggat, Liggatt and Liggett. On February 3rd 1697, Elizabeth Liggett and Jonathan Bushell were married at St. James', Duke's Place, London. The first recorded spelling of thefamily name is shown to be that of Ralph de Lidgate, which was dated 1230, in the "Pipe Rolls of Sussex", during the reign of King Henry 111, known as "The Frenchman", 1216 - 1272. Surnames became necessary when governments introduced personal taxation. In England this was known as Poll Tax. Throughout the centuries, surnames in every country have continued to "develop" often leading to astonishing variants of the original spelling.
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Gehuwd ‎13 aug 1883 Widnes, Lancashire, England, Great Britain, leeftijd 19 jaar The Church of St. Mary, Widnes, Lancashire.
(Widnes is now part of Merseyside)
Present: Thomas Gandy and Betsy Lydiate.
3) (60 jaar gehuwd) met:

womanClara Gandy‏, leeftijd bij huwelijk ongeveer 20 jaar
Dochter van Thomas Gandy en N.N.‏.
Geboren4).
Gedoopt ‎29 mrt 1863 Runcorn, Cheshire, England, Great Britain.
Overleden ‎3 nov 1945 Salford, Lancashire, England, Great Britain Died at 10 Hyde Grove, Sale, Chester.
Present is Clara Carnforth-Lydiate.
‎, leeftijd ongeveer 82 jaar, doodsoorzaak: Myocarditis, Senility. 5)
Also Claire (Anne) Gandy mentioned.
Ook Claire (Anne) Gandy genoemd.

Elsewhere the family name Duckworth is mentioned. Quite certain this is mistaken.
Elders wordt de familienaam Duckworth genoemd. Waarschijnlijk is dat fout.

Surname: Duckworth
This unusual surname is of Anglo-Saxon origin, and is locational from a place in Lancashire called Duckworth Fold. The first element is the Olde English pre 7th Century personal name "Ducca", of uncertain origin, and "worth", a homestead; hence, "Ducca's homestead". Locational surnames, such as this, were usually acquired by a local landowner, or by the lord of the manor, and especially by those former inhabitants of a place who had moved to another area, and were thereafter best identified by the name of their birthplace. The following excerpt from Baines "History of Lanacashire" reads, "in the reign of Edward 111 (1327 - 1372), Richard de Radcliffe held two carucates of land in Oswaldtwisle and Duckworth at that time called Dokeward". The surname is first recorded in the latter half of the 14th Century (see below). Recordings from Lancashire Church Registers include the christening of Ann Duckworth, an infant, in 1561, at Great Harwood. An interesting namebearer, recorded in the "Dictionary of National Biography", was Sir John Thomas Duckworth (1748 - 1817), who was Rear Admiral of the White (1799), and Governor and Commander in Chief of Newfoundland, 1810 - 1813, Admiral 1810; he was created baronet in 1813. The firstrecorded spelling of the family name is shown to be that of Henricus de (of) Dukeworth, which was dated 1379, in the "Poll Tax Returns Records of Yorkshire", during the reign of King Richard 11, known as "Richard of Bordeaux", 1377 - 1399. Surnames became necessary when governments introduced personal taxation. In England this was known as Poll Tax. Throughout the centuries, surnames in every country have continued to "develop" often leading to astonishing variants of the original spelling.
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Kinderen:
1.
manFrederick Walter "Fred" Lydiate‏
Geboren ‎feb 1884 Runcorn, Cheshire, England, Great Britain BMD Vol. 8a, page 234.6).
Overleden Salford, Lancashire, England, Great Britain 7).
Beroepen: Dock Labourer (‎van 1901),
Flatman, Boatman (‎van 1911)

2.
woman‎Florence Lydiate‏‎
Geboren ‎17 jun 1886‎ 8).
Overleden ‎2 feb 1891‎, leeftijd 4 jaar 8)

3.
man‎Samual Lydiate‏‎
Geboren ‎18 feb 1888‎ 8).
Overleden ‎17 jun 1888‎, leeftijd 3 maanden en 4 weken en 2 dagen 8)

4.
man‎Alfred Lydiate‏‎
Geboren ‎10 sep 1889 Runcorn, Cheshire, England, Great Britain‎ 9).
Gedoopt 9).
Overleden ‎voor 1896‎, leeftijd maximaal 7 jaar

5.
manJohn Lydiate‏
Geboren ‎20 aug 1890 Runcorn, Cheshire, England, Great Britain Also 20-08-1889 mentioned.
Ook 20-08-1889 genoemd.
10).
Overleden ‎30 jun 1936 Dunedin, Otago, New Zealand Anderson Bay Cemetary, Dunedin.‎, leeftijd 45 jaar 10).
Begraven ‎2 jul 1936 Dunedin, Otago, New Zealand 11).
Beroepen: Stoker (‎van 29 mrt 1910 tot 25 aug 1920) New Zealand Royal Naval Reserve,
Flatman, Boatman (‎van 1911),
Ships Fireman (‎van 3 apr 1920),
Labourer (‎van 1923) Arbeider,
Reservist (‎van 8 mrt 1923) H.M.S. "Philomel" at Auckland.,
Engine driver (‎van 1928),
Labourer (‎van 1935)
.
Religie: Church of England (‎van 1923)
Description of Reservist (1923):
Stature 5 ft 6 1/2 Inches
Chest 32 1/4 Inches.
Hair Brown
Eyes Brown
Complexion Irish
Tattoed Right forarm J.L. clasped hands, true love, Indian head + Bluejacket bust.
Left arm Woman + Indian Head.

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ss BENALLA

Built: 1913
Ship Type: Passenger Liner
Ship's Role: UK/Australia emigrant service via the Cape of Good Hope (Branch Line)
Tonnage: 11118 gross; 7026 net; 13711 dwt
Length: 500ft 2in
Breadth: 62ft 3in
Draught: 31ft 8in
Status: Arrived for Scrapping - 28/10/1930

Remarks:
13/05/1921: Struck amidships by the tanker PATELLA in thick fog 7 miles off Eastbourne and beached in Pevensey Bay. Her passengers were disembarked the following day by the tender LADY BRASSEY and landed at Dover, while BENALLA was pumped out and patched and then drydocked for repairs at Royal AlbertDock in London before she resumed trading.
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Aboard the Benalla is also Stanley Lydiate, 9 years old.
Born in Salford 3 qrt. 1912? Mother Grigg?



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He engaged as A.B. (or A.D.) on board the R.M.S. Wanganui in Wellington on December 30, 1922.
He didn't sail on the voyage from Sidney to San Fransisco, arrival Februari 5, 1925.
.

6.
manStephen "Steve" Lydiate‏
Geboren ‎± 1892 Runcorn, Cheshire, England, Great Britain Probably born September 30, 1892.6).
Beroepen: Flatman, Boatman (‎van 1911),
Horseman (‎van 1921)

Booked in London on S.S. Beltana 26 May 1921 for Melbourne, Australia, but their names are striked on the passengers list.

7.
man‎Albert Lydiate‏‎
Geboren12).
Gedoopt ‎12 okt 1893 Runcorn, Cheshire, England, Great Britain 12).
Overleden ‎voor 1901 Runcorn, Cheshire, England, Great Britain‎, leeftijd ongeveer 8 jaar 13)

8.
man‎Sidney Lydiate‏‎
Geboren ‎1 okt 1894 Runcorn, Cheshire, England, Great Britain‎ 8).
Overleden ‎6 dec 1894 Runcorn, Cheshire, England, Great Britain‎, leeftijd 2 maanden en 5 dagen 8)

9.
man‎Alfred Lydiate‏‎
Geboren ‎± 1895 Runcorn, Cheshire, England, Great Britain 4th qrt 1895, vol , page 379.
3rd qrt 1896, vol , page 346.
Also 1889 mentioned.

England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906
about Alfred Lydiate
Name: Alfred Lydiate
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 10 Sep 1889
Christening Place: Runcorn, Cheshire, England
Father's Name: John Lydiate
Mother's Name: Clara Lydiate

Source Citation: Place: Runcorn, Cheshire, England; Collection: All Saints; -; Date Range: 1883 - 1891; Film Number: 1656551.

Source Information:

Ancestry.com. England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2008. Original data: Genealogical Society of Utah. British Isles Vital Records Index, 2nd Edition. Salt Lake City, Utah:Intellectual Reserve, copyright 2002. Used by permission.

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6).
Beroepen: Bottler (‎van 1911) Bottelaar,
Farmer (‎van 1920)

10.
womanClara "Dolly" Lydiate‏
Geboren ‎± 1900 Salford, Lancashire, England, Great Britain‎ 6)
In 1911 John and Clara have 1 daughter named Clara, but probably called Dolly.

11.
man‎Harry Lydiate‏‎
Geboren ‎± 1902 Salford, Lancashire, England, Great Britain‎ 6).
Beroep: Messroom Boy (‎van 4 jan 1924) Vessel 'Tolken'
Sailed in 1924 on board of MS Tolken from Melbourne, via Japan to Portland, Oregon.
Length 5'6'', weight 156 lbs.

12.
man‎Harold Lydiate‏‎
Geboren ‎± 1908 Salford, Lancashire, England, Great Britain‎ 6).
Beroep: Farm Hand (‎van 1923)


Bronnen

1) Certified Copy of Entry of Birth, Runcorn 1864, nr 374.
2) Certified Copy of Entry of Death, Manchester 1944, no. 409.
3) Certified Copy of Entry of Marriage, Widnes 1883, no. 113.
4) Barbara
5) Certified Copy of Entry of Death, Bucklow, Sale, Chester 1945, no.142.
6) 1911 Census UK
7) Reets Family Tree
8) A.R.Williamson Family Tree
9) England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906
10) New Zealand Society of Genealogists Inc.
11) New Zealand Cemetery Records. New Zealand Society of Genealogists Incorporated.
12) England and Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906
13) 1901 UK Census
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